save vs shave: hear and say the difference
save and shave are identical except for one sound: save has the s sound, /s/, and shave has the sh sound, /ʃ/. S uses a narrow groove at the tip of the tongue with the lips spread; SH slides the whole tongue back a centimetre, widens the channel and pushes the lips forward.
The two words
The difference
What actually changes
S uses a narrow groove at the tip of the tongue with the lips spread; SH slides the whole tongue back a centimetre, widens the channel and pushes the lips forward.save — /s/
- Lips
- Slightly spread, corners back.
- Tongue
- Tip near — not touching — the ridge, with a narrow groove down the middle.
- Jaw
- Almost closed; the teeth nearly meet.
shave — /ʃ/
- Lips
- Pushed forward and slightly rounded.
- Tongue
- Body raised and pulled back a little from the S position, blade broad.
- Jaw
- Nearly closed.
Each word in a sentence
save
Save the file before you close it.
shave
He forgot to shave this morning.
Why this pair is hard
Bengali's main sibilant is a sh-type sound, so English S often comes out hushed. Tamil, Telugu and most Spanish varieties have no sh and substitute s or ch. Japanese and Korean turn s into sh automatically before an i, so 'see' and 'she' blur in one direction only. Mandarin has a retroflex sh that makes the English one sound darker.
Straight answers
What is the difference between "save" and "shave"?
One sound. save is /seɪv/ and shave is /ʃeɪv/ — everything else in the two words is identical, so that single contrast carries the whole meaning. S uses a narrow groove at the tip of the tongue with the lips spread; SH slides the whole tongue back a centimetre, widens the channel and pushes the lips forward.
Why do I say "save" and "shave" the same way?
Bengali's main sibilant is a sh-type sound, so English S often comes out hushed. Tamil, Telugu and most Spanish varieties have no sh and substitute s or ch. Japanese and Korean turn s into sh automatically before an i, so 'see' and 'she' blur in one direction only. Mandarin has a retroflex sh that makes the English one sound darker.
Should I train my ear or my mouth first?
Your ear. If you cannot reliably hear which word was said, your mouth has no target to aim at, and drilling produces a sound you cannot check. Run the listening test on this page until you are scoring four or five out of five, then record the pair.
Say "save" and "shave" and see which one you said
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